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2S Quadcopter

This is a planning page for a quadcopter using 2S batteries, more exactly 1300mAh. The reason is that I already have plenty of such for MS Composit Swift II and wouldn't want to get yet another different size only for one device. Something ultrasmall or even mini isn't the target. More likely something using 8" props resulting in around 30-40 cm motor to motor distance. The target flight time is around 6 minutes.

Motor options

Starting with the assumption that using a 8" prop would be the best option, the motor would need to have a KV of around 1400-1600 if the usualy KV for a 3S build is between 900-1100 for the same prop size. One possible problem can be that motors of this size use integrated prop holder that might not be stiff enough.

motor weight (g) size (mm) rpm/v current shaft (mm) prop battery note
E-Power GC GT2203 16 28x12? 1560 max 6.8A PH 8x4.3 2S http://www.flybrushless.com/motor/view/593
Turnigy 2204-14T 19 28x12 1450 max 7.5A PH 8x4/7x3.5 2-3S
Keda KD2203/41 19 27x20 1500 max 8A PH 8x4.3 2S http://www.giantcod.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=1610
C2404 21 30x10 1900 9.4A PH 9x5 2S that prop suggestion sounds wrong...
Blue Wonder 1300kv 25 1300 max 8A 3 mm 8x3.8 3S 2S quadcopter mentioned in Giantcod comments, 460g/7.5A hover
Blue Wonder 1500kv 25? 1500 max 7A 3 mm 8x3.8 3S
E-Power GC GT2205 23 1660 max 8A (12A) 3 mm 8x4.3 2S (3S)

Turnigy and Keda seem to be the best options so far.

Weight calculation

These are really only rought approximations.

item weight (g) note
4 x motor @ ~20 g 80
4 x 15 cm square tube @ ~15 g 60
4 x 8" prop @ ~10 g 40 how about 3-blade prop?
4 x ESC @ 7-12 g 28-48
MiniWii 8 availability unknown, alternatives much heavier
FASST receiver 10 ppm is a must
Turnigy 1300mAh 2S 90
baseplate 20 just a guess
wires and screws 20 just a guess
= 302-322

Flight time guestimation

The comments section of Hobbyking for Turnigy 2204-14T motor mentions the following thrust/current values (to be tested myself) with GWS 8x4.3:

3.5oz (100g) 1.50A/8.0v
5.3oz (150g) 2.35A/7.9v
7.0oz (200g) 3.40A/7.6v
9.0oz (250g) 4.70A/7.3v

With the planned weight, the quadcopter should be able to hover with about 100 g thrust from each motor (4 x 100 g = 400 g). As a result, we should be able to assume 4 x 1.5A = 6A as total current required for hovering.

capacity calculation time
1.3A 1.3A / (6A / 60min.) 13 min.
1.0A 1.0A / (6A / 60min.) 10 min.
0.8A 0.8A / (6A / 60min.) 8 min.

If the battery isn't totally drained (like is shouldn't), a 1300 mAh battery can be expected to have something between 800-1000 mAh of usable capacity. That gives a hovering time between 8-10 minutes making a flight time of around 6 minutes realistic.

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